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When did you start writing poetry?
I started writing poetry in 1996. I signed up for a Chicano/a
literature course at Arizona State believing it was an ordinary
survey class. It turned out to be a writing workshop. I almost
dropped the course. I can still remember how my hands shook, how my
voice trembled when I read out loud the first poem I wrote for
class. The instructor, Dr. Arturo J. Aldama, saw something in that
meager first poem. Dr. Aldama was a wonderful mentor. He
encouraged me to write and write. He gave me lists of poets I
should read. He was the first person to call me a poet. He forced
me to meet the poets in the English department: Alberto Rios and
Norman Dubie.
I slipped a batch of my poems under the office door of Alberto Rios
with a note asking for a meeting. Thankfully, he took time out from
his busy schedule and met with me to discuss my poems. Rios was
kind to my poems. He tore them apart gently. I must admit that I
was star-struck when I first met Rios. Here I was talking to a poet
whose work was in the Norton anthology! I remember just nodding
yes to whatever suggestions Rios had for my poems. Who was I to
disagree with him? And I remember staring at the tall bookshelves
behind his desk lined with hundreds of books and journals. Did he
really read all of them, I asked myself. I'm guessing he did
because he's still one of the most intelligent men I've ever met.
Norman Dubie was also generous with his time. Dubie is a tall,
large man with longish hair and a white beard. But he has a small
dark office in the English building. The wall opposite his desk was
plastered with posters, postcards, and photographs. While we
discussed my work he would smoke. I enjoyed the way cigarette smoke
weaved in and out of his beard. Dubie was a demanding reader of my
work. He read each poem individually, but he knew my poems didn't
spring from a void. He respected how my ethnic and sexual
identities worked their way into my work. But he never treated my
work as the work of a "minority" writer. He encouraged me to read
from various literary traditions. He was the first teacher who
told me that my work was an extension of the American project.
What was the question? Ah, yes. I was due to graduate in the
spring of 1999, but I didn't know what I was going to do after
graduation. I was still writing and reading poetry. I had taken an
undergraduate workshop with Beckian Fritz Goldberg and a graduate
level workshop with Dubie. So I decided to pursue an MFA degree in
creative writing. I bought the AWP guide to creative writing
programs, and Dubie gave me a list of MFA programs that he thought
would be a good fit for me. I applied to seven programs and got
into seven programs. I picked Iowa because they offered me the best
financial package. At Iowa I did feel like a "minority" writer.
The lack of writers of color in the curriculum and on the staff was
stunning. How bad was it? Well, the only time I remember
discussing issues of race was during a conversation about a Frank
O'Hara poem. The atmosphere at Iowa made me feel invisible. I
felt like an affirmative action case. So I just shut down, and
withdrew from workshops. And if I did attend workshop, I would
rarely speak up. I remember telling myself that this poetry thing
wasn't going to work out during my second year at Iowa. And for a
while I did stop writing poetry. That's what Iowa did to me. It
made me want to quit writing. But I couldn't stop writing. Images
would constantly pop into my head. Lines assembled themselves in my
head. Once I left Iowa I began to write again.
What is your usual drafting process for when you write a poem?
My poems usually begin with a central image. And then it becomes a
question of placing that image inside a dwelling of sound &
meaning. I'm a slow writer. Often, it takes me up to a year to
finish a poem.
As a recent arrival on the blogging scene, how has this
experience affected your own writing practice, if at all?
Blogging hasn't changed the way I write. Should I be worried about
this?
What dialogues are you hoping to generate from your presence
on the web? What useful dialogues have already emerged?
I blog about my life and about my struggle to complete my first
poetry collection. So most of the dialogues on my blog are
entertaining but frivolous. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
But once and while an issue strikes a cord and a heated discussion
will ensue. Once I blogged about the importance of my ethnic and
sexual identities in my work. I need to write from a gay Chicano
perspective. I want to be known as a gay Chicano poet. Unlike some
other writers, I'm not afraid to be "colored." I'm fully aware that
any tag before the word poet automatically places my work in a box
in the minds of most readers. One certain level that's what I
want. I want readers to read my work with certain expectations.
Sometimes my work will fulfill those expectations. Sometimes my
work will leap out of that little box in their minds.
After this post a wonderful dialogue followed. And the dialogue was
cordial until an ugly anonymous comment appeared attacking one of my
readers. I was surprised. I thought of erasing the comment but in
the end I allowed it on my blog. I knew the person being attacked
could respond articulately. And this ugly anonymous comment
reminded me that blogs are just another version of bookstores or
coffee shops: spaces where artists meet to converse and to
argue.
Who or what are your influences?
Lorca. Beloved. Lorna Dee Cervantes. Derek Walcott. Cyndi
Lauper. Elizabeth Bishop. Pre-Columbian Literatures. Homer.
CNN. Ted Hughes. Donald Justice. Agha Shahid Ali. Midnight's
Children. Paul Valery. Gwendolyn Brooks. Keats. REM. Yehuda
Amichai. Seamus Heaney. Paz. William Carlos Williams. Rilke.
Robert Hayden. Mexico. David St. John. Robert Duncan. My
family. T.S. Eliot. One Hundred Years of Solitude. James
Dickey. Hart Crane. Rita Dove. The Smiths. Whitman. Juan
Gabriel. Chicano history. The Magic Barrel. Robert Hass.
The desert.
How have you negotiated these influences in your
poetry-writing practice?
Honestly, I don't know. One hopes the best from one's reading seeps
into the work.
What does poetry give to you? What do you get from poetry?
Those Winter Sundays by Robert Hayden
Sundays too my father got up early
and put his clothes on in the blueblack cold,
then with cracked hands that ached
from labor in the weekday weather made
banked fires blaze. No one ever thanked him.
I'd wake and hear the cold splintering, breaking.
When the rooms were warm, he'd call,
and slowly I would rise and dress,
fearing the chronic angers of that house,
speaking indifferently to him,
who had driven out the cold
and polished my good shoes as well.
What did I know, what did I know
of love's austere and lonely offices?
You have just been awarded the position of Poet Laureate.
What's the first thing that you do?
Buy a blue dress! And then I would invite the L-A-N-G-U-A-G-E and
Neo-Formalists poets to an arm wrestling conference.
Ron Silliman vs. Dana Gioia.
Annie Finch vs. Lyn Hejinian.
Charles Bernstein vs. Marilyn Hacker.
Describe your favorite pen.
My mother as a young girl in a small village in Mexico would use
homemade pencils to practice her penmanship. Her father would drill
holes into lengths of whittled wood. He would pack the holes with
bits of coal. But he never painted or stained the pencils. Once a
year, at the end of the harvest, my mother would purchase a
pomegranate. She used its seeds to stain her pencils.
I use a pomegranate-colored pen.
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