
What first inspired you to
write poetry? Was it a conscious decision to continue writing?
When I was a child my grandmother read poetry to me—Whittier,
Longfellow, Tennyson, mostly. Around the same time, I used to fold
and staple 8½ x 11 sheets of paper into “books” and write superhero
and sports stories in them. I was intrigued by the idea of poetry
too, but didn’t think it was particularly interesting until I picked
up a copy of Paul Carroll’s The Young American Poets from my
high school library. On the day the book was due to be returned, I
flipped to “one last” random poem—Ted Berrigan’s “Tambourine Life.”
It was so exciting—I didn’t know, for instance, that a poem could
begin with the word “Fuck,” that it could be spread all across the
page and full of funny lines and specific references. I never felt
the need to stop writing after that.
What poets inspire you? How?
I read and love lots of new poetry from a variety of genres and
styles: Gerstler, Equi, Trinidad, Scalapino, Berssenbrugge, the
Waldrops, Wang Ping, Jarnot, Lauterbach, Sirowitz, etc., etc. I
still love Creeley’s poetry, Padgett, Guest. Like so many people, I
mourned the loss of Kenneth Koch a couple of years ago, had to pull
over my car when I heard the news. & I’ll go back always to O’Hara,
Cage, Olson, Schuyler, Spicer. I tend toward Williams and HD and
Loy over Eliot and Pound, and I love Dickinson and Blake. I went to
graduate school thinking I would be studying the late Victorians.
I believe in the notion of influence but, like everyone, try to
resist it. I try not to read too much of one author at a
time—otherwise s/he gets stuck in my head, and some (like Ashbery)
are dangerously tough to expunge. I try not to steal lines from 20th
Century poets unless it’s obvious (I finally wrote an elegy for Koch
this summer composed of one line each from 20 of his books—I
couldn’t figure out a more fitting way to write a tribute to him.)
Often I come across a brilliant form that I wish I could have
thought of first—I read Scalapino’s “Crowd and not evening or light”
(a sequence in the form of photographs and poem/captions) when it
came out a decade or so ago and couldn’t sleep afterwards—it was so
wonderful. Or some of Osman’s forms or Retallack’s or Jarnot’s or
Trinidad’s. There are so many terrific things being written
now—they all keep me awake at night and at the computer.
What other interests inspire you to write? What, if any, and how?
I’m really interested in many kinds of language and forms; sometimes
texts that are awkward, artificial, and forced can be so beautiful.
I love, for instance, the language of physics and mathematical
proofs. My parents are both chemists—I remember hearing 10-syllable
words constructed in elaborate syntaxes at our dinner table,
understanding none of it. I was at the dentist’s office last week
and became enthralled with dental terminology—the “shedding” of baby
teeth and “eruption” of permanents. The language of sports and
games like bowling and billiards. Old TV shows. Comic books. Pro
wrestling. Instruction manuals. I’m in the midst of writing a
sequence of poems composed solely of found texts from “I’m Feeling
Lucky” google searches on scripted sets of associated keywords. On
the more serious side, my daughters (ages 4 & 2) inspire me every
minute—their approach to language is breathtaking. & as difficult
as it is, at the moment I feel compelled to write political poems
for the first time.
What is most apparent to me when reading selections of your work
is your range of voice. In poems like "unfolding" and "scissors"
you seem to speak in a more lyrical and fragmented voice, whereas in
poems like "Ra Ra" and "Telephone Books," you speak with a more
narrative, straightforward voice. Do you think that poets, and
artists, in general, are not encouraged to experiment with multiple
voices? What do you see as the benefit and/or the downfall of
working with a large range of voice?
I think the idea of a singular “voice” is something that many poets
try to achieve, something that’s taught in many graduate writing
programs. My feeling is that a poem is so many things—a visual,
rhythmic, structured text invested with some sort of intention—that
voice seems like a rather arbitrary quality to make absolute or
constant. I prefer a more elaborate matrix in which form and
content, visual and oral, are always interrelated and dependent upon
one other. I’m not sure how I could—or why I would—write in a
single voice all of the time. I applaud those who wish to and do.
I’m a fan of Ron Padgett’s poem “Voice,” which ends, “I hope I never
find mine. I / wish to remain a phony the rest of my life.” That
said, I do believe my poems are united in different ways,
particularly within each book.
The poem "Blend" has a very musical quality. In addition to
parallel structure, you make use of anaphora, or repetition. How did
you come to choose the use of anaphora to structure the poem?
I write most of my poems to be read out loud or performed, so really
am enamored of repetition and other musical features. The structure
and its implications (all of the various dichotomies it introduces,
including most prominently the play with cause and effect) came
first in that poem, the content afterwards.
What do you think ultimately holds a poem together?
The relationship between form and content, and the relationship
between the visual and performative elements. I like to believe
that each of my poems is real and alive and finished in some way,
that it can live a life on its own.
Would you consider yourself an "experimental" poet?
I guess so. I’m not sure, however, whether it’s really possible to
be such a thing anymore. It seems to me, as a specific endeavor,
that pure “experimentation” within poetry—experimentation for the
sake of experimentation—might be over, at least for the time being.
That said, I believe a good poem is an original poem, and
originality requires experimentation. I want each of my poems to be
as unique and new and mischievous as possible.
What made you move from the NY and CT area to Atlanta? Has being
in a different region influenced your work?
After living most of my life in the Northeast, it seemed time for a
change. I think the shift in region has affected my work, but I
wouldn’t say dramatically. I’ve never considered myself, for
instance, a regional writer, whether in NY or New England or in the
South. However, the everyday buzz of the city, for me, contains
many wonderful words and a rhythm for writing. I miss riding trains
and subways and walking everywhere; all of these actions contained
great moments of silence amidst the chaos. Atlanta is a post-car
city—its neighborhoods seem randomly constructed and always 20
minutes apart—so there are fewer pauses, caesuras. I think the
change to the movement and sound of Atlanta has in some ways
adjusted the continuo of my writing.
You have three collections of poems, The Greek Gods as
Telephone Wires, Ten Pins, Ten Frames, and the forthcoming
Glass Is Really Liquid (all from Front Room Publishers). Can you
tell me about the journey of these books and how you see your
current collection?
The Greek Gods as Telephone Wires, as much as anything,
revolves around the roles of myth and legend in our culture, from
how we incorporate ancient narratives to contemporary myths such as
baseball and Batman. It’s composed in large part of poems I
originally wrote to read aloud or perform. Ten Pins, Ten Frames
is more or less centered on memory—not my own, which would be dull,
but using specific memories to explore the weird ways in which
memory works or fails to work. Glass Is Really a Liquid
seems to be mostly about language, although its final shape hasn’t
yet appeared.
I have begun to publish more and more on-line. I see you have a
significant amount of web publications, in addition to your books.
What do you think of publishing on the web? Do you think it reaches
a wider audience? How does it compare to publication in a print
literary magazine?
I’ve begun recommending more and more web journals to my students
each year and find, in my own reading, that I’m becoming more and
more enchanted with the many voices of online work. As slippery as
the web is, there’s a timelessness to it—in ten years, will you be
more likely to google a journal or pull a copy off of your
bookshelf? Even sites that folded years ago are often still
accessible, archived and maintained on a server somewhere. That
said, there’s also the joy of online immediacy—in the case of one
journal, my poems were accepted and posted within a day of
submission. There are still so many print journals I love and keep—Lungfull!,
Skanky Possum, Jubilat, 26, Explosive, Canary, Talisman, to name
just a few—but I’m running out of room on my bookshelves! The web
is easy, pretty, fun, and doesn’t take up a lot of space.
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