GUEST EDITOR GABRIEL GUDDING ~THE STRANGE CALL
VOLUME 19, ISSUE 3 ISSN 1543-6063

A Few Poets Interviewed David Lehman

 

Heidi Lynn Staples
Let's say you could have daily poems from any poet, living or not, during any single year. Whose daily poems would you most like to read? By daily poems I mean poems written daily, yes, but also poems that make use of the local idiom and quotidian details of the poet's life.
 

Good question, difficult to answer. I suppose I'd opt for Keats, because he was so sympathetic a personality that I think the details of his life and mind would sustain and renew your interest.

 




Ron Silliman
I have heard you are an avid stamp collector. Do you see any relationship between your poetry and philately?



 

There are resemblances between stamps and poems. Both are or can be viewed as aesthetic objects that retain an element of mystery while conveying historical information, in some cases unintentionally. Also, both activities, stamp collecting and poetry writing, are old-fashioned and mark the practitioner as a somewhat anomalous character.


 

Heidi Lynn Staples
If you could invite a guest-editor for Best American Poetry 2006 from among the postmortal poets, who would you invite?

 

Elizabeth Bishop. Everyone across the spectrum would be curious to know which poems she would select. She was hard to please, and it would be considered an honor beyond the usual to win her vote. I'd want greedily to raid the underworld for a second editor, and that would be W. H. Auden, a great poet who, as an anthologist and as judge of the Yale Younger Poets Series, distinguished himself as a reader of wide taste and astute judgment

 

Ivy Alvarez
Regarding the "Best American Poetry" series, how closely do you work with the guest editors?


 

That depends largely on the guest editors. My role varies from year to year according to their wishes. No two years have been identical. One constant is that every year at regular intervals I send off copies of poems I've culled from magazines, poems that I think should be considered. But the editor is free to disregard these suggestions. Some years the person making the selections has felt that the decision-making could best be done in the framework of a dialogue, and I've enjoyed that very much. In the end it's the other person whose decisions are final, and my job is really to help as best I can.
 

Jenni Russell
Do you still write a poem every day and if you do, how many "gems" do you collect in a month's time?




 

I wrote a poem each day for parts of five years, though not since January 2003 when I started preparing the manuscript that was just published (April 2005) by Scribner, When a Woman Loves a Man. One thing that has happened is that the form and manner of the daily poems has become available to me as an option, and some days I find myself writing a poem resembling those in The Daily Mirror or The Evening Sun in appearance (brevity, irregular punctuation) and bearing a similar relation to the configuration of the world that day. When I wrote a poem every day without exception, my best months were March 1996, when I felt that everything I thought turned to poetry, and April 1998, when the Poetry Daily web site gave me the chance to post all thirty poems as they were written. I love a challenge, and that was a great one.

Birdie Jaworski
Did the critical and public responses to The Last Avant-Garde give you pause that perhaps the New York school isn't the last avant-garde?
 

Avant-garde became a debased term inevitably with the success of various avant-garde movements. Yet the romance of the avant-garde and the nostalgia for it are so strong that some think to pursue the distinction as an end in itself. This would be an error. It makes better sense to try to write well than to try to be original. Originality isn't something you acquire by great study and imitation of models in accepted use, academically enshrined. John Ashbery is our greatest living poet, and the last exemplar of the avant-garde ideal, and he knows he is leaving us a conundrum. He has quoted the composer Busoni on the issue of discipleship: "One follows a great example most faithfully if one does not follow it, for it was through turning away from its predecessor that the example became great." Assimilating what Ashbery has done without imitating it, and without necessarily seeking to go beyond it, is the task at hand. In Fear and Trembling Kierkegaard has a great passage about the futility and folly of trying to go beyond or to "go further." He talks about the disciple of Heraclitus who, upon hearing that the master had declared that "you can't walk into the same river twice," thought he would go one better and said, "you can't do it even once." By trying to "go further," the disciple had arrived at a position Heraclitus had abandoned as one abandons a lost chess game. That said, let me reiterate what I argue in my book – which is that the New York School is the last poetry avant-garde we have had, not the last we will ever have. "The avant-garde always exists in the state of idea," Frank O'Hara observed. "All you have to do is be one individual who is tired of looking at something that looks like something else." My book is dedicated to that one individual.

Pris Campbell
Growing up/living in New York has clearly been a strong creative force in your writing. If you could pick one spot in the city, right at this moment, to sit and feel most inspired to create your next poem, where would it be and why?
 

That's easy: I'd transport myself to my bedroom in apartment 3C of 52 Arden Street in the Inwood section of Manhattan. It's where I lived until I went to college and then overseas on a fellowship to Cambridge, England. In my second year abroad my father died. I went home for the funeral, and stayed in the old apartment with my mother and one of my sisters. Then I went back to England. By the time I returned to New York when my fellowship ran out, my mother and sister had moved to Far Rockaway. I never again saw the apartment where I had lived for most of my first twenty years.
 

Amy Gerstler
Which of the other arts (music, visual art, dance, etc.) have influenced your poetry and in what ways?


 

It inspires me to write while listening to music –– in my case, classical, jazz, or American standards. For one thing it improves my mood, and one is usually more productive writing in a good humor. Also, I think it affects the rhythm of your writing, and when the lyrics are as clever as they are in the great American song book, perhaps this modifies your sense of lyric possibility. It has for me. The lyrics I love –– by Ira Gershwin, Lorenz Hart, Johnny Mercer, Cole Porter, Oscar Hammerstein, Irving Berlin, Dorothy Fields, Frank Loesser, Yip Harburg, Sammy Cahn, and the rest –– are not poems; they're in a different category. But in my daydreams I'd like nothing more than to write lyrics that Richard Rodgers or Harold Arlen would set to music.

Karl Parker
As a former student, I say you are a great teacher of poetry. Your assignments, exercises, and incisiveness stay with me: what do you get from teaching? What's in it for you?

 

 

That's a wonderful compliment. Thank you, Karl. Teaching keeps you in very active touch with people younger than yourself, so it becomes a way to keep track of changes in the language, changes in fashion and taste and attitude and behavior. As occupations go, teaching –– especially teaching the writing of poetry –– gives you very little by way of subject matter. The world doesn't need another poem in which the teacher tries to recapitulate an insight he or she had with "my students" in class that day. But teaching poetry does –– if you give regular assignments, as I do –– oblige you to think of creative exercises, and then it is only proper for you to do some of the assignments yourself. And if you believe as I do that inspiration is something you help generate rather than wait for, there are few better ways of generating it than with the sort of self-imposed limitation that characterizes the best assignments. So in all I think it's a net plus. Because of teaching I've written poems I might not otherwise have written. And then, of course, there’s the enormous pleasure to be had from watching and helping young writers develop their talent.

Shane Allison
Do you like my poetry?
 




Yes, I do.

 

 

David Lehman's new book of poems, his sixth, is When a Woman Loves a Man (Scribner, April 2005). His nonfiction books include The Last Avant-Garde, a study of the New York School of poetry.

Interview Finalized May 2005
 

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